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created on 10/18/2006  |  http://fubar.com/random-stuff/b15189  |  2 followers

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Warning: A lot of reading ahead :P

Okay I am bored and figured I would do a blog....what better than on.. atheism.

These are either pictures I found on theistic websites [mostly xtian ones] or stuff I have heard people say in relation to atheism or things that atheist may use to support their position.

This picture is one I found particularly funny.



 Um, this atheist may actually convert to believe in a deity if someone can tell me what the fuck this person was trying to say? Maybe this person was so moved by the spirit he/she forgot how to speak English.



This was a photo that a friend sent me that had been forwarded to her by her Christian friend, the email said it was “kid safe”... I will go through each one and attempt to dissect them as best as I can. Which as always will simply be my interpretation, I do not speak of all atheist, just myself.

“Unlike Christians, atheist believe in “luck” and “fortune”, while Christians know progress and success come from hard work.
Speaking clearly for myself, I do not believe in any type of supernatural forces or things of that nature. I do not believe in “luck” and more so live my life by the “Shit Happens” theme. I do not know any atheist who sit around and wait for things to come to them while “wishing” for it to happen, instead they get out and work for it.


“About 60% of all convicted criminals have confessed to being atheist or devil worshippers”
I will give them two points for at least not equating atheist with devil worshipper. But this of course is a fallacy, the majority of criminals are usually Christian, and admit to not being that religious. Which means they believe in a god, Christ, etc, but do not go to church or may not have much faith in religious institutions. 

Fact is, atheist make up less than 1% of the prison population in America and make up only 2% of the entire world population. While you will look at charts and see 1 billion people in the world identify themselves as secular, nonreligious, agnostic and atheist. Secular does not equate atheist which is what a large majority of that group is. Non-religious for the most part means they believe in a god or something but have no need for organized religions, agnostic just means to have a sort of 50/50 about it.

You have agnostic theist and agnostic atheist. Along with Gnostic theist and Gnostic atheist. Agnostic theist are people who believe in a god yet are open to the possibility that there is no god, agnostic atheist are people who do not believe in any god but are open to the possibility of a god. Then you have Gnostic theist and atheist who are quite set in their ways. Gnostic theist believe there is a god 100%, and Gnostic atheist as I am, do not believe there is no god and find it pointless to believe in such a being without any proof of said being.


“atheism has caused more wars in history than religious has”
Actually no, religious wars have been the source of the majority of wars for thousands of years. If you [the writer] would have said atheist have started more wars in the 20th century …or more accurately caused more death during wars in the 20th century, then I could of agreed with you. Since with Stalin, Mao, Khmer Rouge, etc with their 100M + death toll I would of accepted that

Sorry religious people, Hitler was not an atheist before you say why did I not add Hitler.

Yet if we look “in history” since that was the claim, religion, or more accurately religious people have caused more wars than atheist ever have…and more than likely, ever will.


“It’s shown that atheist do more drugs, and have more violent tendencies than Christians”
Actually studies have shown the exact opposite. Studies have shown that when you have a higher atheistic/nonreligious percentage, the crime rate is actually a lot lower… This includes all crimes, murder, rape, drugs. I am not saying that atheist are morally superior than Christians, for I believe it depends on the person not the belief [though, I do find that theist are in general less tolerant than atheist… especially as it pertains to their precious bible]


“Atheist worship satan, the evil hell god”
speaking for myself only...and in generals. Atheist do not even believe in satan, that is a theistic concept of the embodiment of man made, desires and faults. We do not worship anything, god nor devil, divine nor damned. … these are theistic concepts, not atheist ones.


“76% of Atheist are communist”
I found this also to be very funny, if they would have said 76% of Marxist were atheist, then I could have believed this. Marx was one of the first modern communist to speak of religion having no place in communism.

Yet if anyone looked up the history of communism, it was started by religious people, in fact Christians, one of the earliest teachings of communism was in fact that people were all equal, humans are not above each other, for only god was above them all. The whole everyone works for the common good, was worded early with the bibles own verse of II Thessalonians 3:10-11 and coined into communism with some socialist ideals by Vladimir Lenin when he said the first rule of socialism is “He who does not work, neither shall he eat”.

While Lenin was an atheist, and this may defeat the purpose to the eh...close minded people,  he was known to study biblical text, and saw certain teachings it could be learned from it.

Communism, or the classless system can actually be traced back to ancient Greece, Plato in his written work entitled “The Republic” spoke of a classless system where everyone owned the land, operated the land, and lived off the land. It was practiced back then, by many of the religious people…and even today, in many African tribes they still hold true to these principals of classless style system….yet they still are quite religious.

I would like to see such proof of their absurdity of their false statistics to back up such claims.


“38% of terrorist attacks were committed by devil worshippers?”
The vast majority of terrorist attacks are committed by theistic people, who believe in a god, ..and reject the devil. More modern or rather more recently the majority of terrorist attacks particularly in the middle east and in Africa are being committed by Islamic and Christian fanatics.


"Atheist believe that murder, drugs, and rape should be legal to protect freedom"
Hm, atheism is simply the disbelief of any deity. The idea of atheism is in support of drugs, rape, and senseless murder is just yet another example of an absurdity of a theistic mind attempting to equate a belief in god with having some type of moral superiority.

A belief or disbelief does not make anyone morally superior or inferior. I have known some atheist that were all around dicks, same as theist….


“Atheist believe in abortion, which is the murder of unborn and recently born children for the soul purpose of the thrill"
Hm, if the child is already born.. then it would not be considered an abortion. Since born generally refers to fully out… I would also like to say, I guess all those Atheist Pro-Life groups are not real atheist.. I mean since atheist are all pro-abortion.. so, yea.... I will once again speak just for me. As far as I know, no one “believes in abortion”.. what I do believe in, is that such decisions should be left up to the mother and that the government, state, or country should have no say in it whatsoever.

…once again another theistic attempt to make atheist seem like some immoral people that are there to corrupt your children and harm them.

[Communism Question: When letting a friend read this through before posting, they asked that I give a few sentences about my feelings on communism.

As far as communism goes, if it is pure communism I find the system to be ideally and when practiced to be a great system; as shown by some communal type places all around the world. Where all of the people work for the people; no one is over anyone [this is not to say they do not have some type of government or elected officials, yet these officials are to be elected by the people, and shall step down at the behest of the people] where the group as a whole works to strive for greatness for them all.

But I think generally that on wide scaled margins that it will not work. As stated, for small, communal typpe settlements it could be a system to consider but as society grows larger, as people want to branch for and strive for different things I find this particular system to not be the best system for any society fo scope ... a few hundred people in a very small society .. maybe..  few million people.. um nope.

Like with any system if taken to its extremities then the system is no longer a good one, so I am not in support of authoritarian or totalitarian rule. To me authoritarian and totalitarian type of governments are in direct opposition of what pure communism is, which is no one ideally has ultimate power over anyone else, and no one is to be or be entitled to more than the people simply because of something as trivial as a title they may hold.

America, and most capitalistic systems judge success by wealth. Yes, these systems in general are not the richest, these systems in general may have to sacrifice all of the easy things a capitalistic system may have. But I am not so eh, arrogant in the believing that easy equals right, and the sad notion of money = success. To me a mans ideals, his wants, his love for fellow people, matters much more to me than the wealth he may possess.

I should clarify this since when reading she did not get it, I am not anti-capitalism in general, I am anti free market capitalism, for in a free market capitalistic society, the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, the sick die, the poor starve Sorry America, your system has not been a pure capitalistic system or a free market system since its founding, you have a capitalistic system, paired with a democratic socialist society, thus your public schools, thus your medicare, thus your Medicaid, thus your recent getting [which may or may not be repealed] of universal health care. Though the funds to these programs could be a lot more, especially in the richest nation in the world to treat your lowest of citizens as such…

I am not against personal wealth, if you are wealthy or rich person [yes, wealthy and rich are two different things to me] great for you. I am not opposed to wealth, I am opposed if said wealth is made on the backs of the workers, the continuous cutting of hours, or wages so that they may line their pockets. The term that would best describe it, I am opposed to any type of wage slavery. If ones wealth is gotten with use of wage slavery to its workers then yes I greatly opposed to it.

I am a democratic socialist, I have discussed this before, and shall not do it again, if you would like me to link you to my politics, and reasons, I will just tell you check out my deviant art page, which has my politics, reasons, and some other writings that I have done
http://atheosemanon.deviantart.com/]




Evolution!!! Oh it disproves god!
Not really, evolution is not really about disproving god per se, yet it is about showing us how we came to be, or rather how we are what we are now.

A friend of mines who is a religious guys, a xtian, said that “Darwin’s theory of evolution is flawed in that it said that we came from monkeys, or rather we evolved from monkeys and if that were true there would be no more monkeys.”

To this I can only say it is not the theory of evolution that is flawed but his understanding of it, evolution DOES NOT say that we come from monkeys at all. What it does say is, and you can look it up online or ask any evolutionary scientist of this, it states that human and monkeys have a common ancestor. Supporting evidence of this is the humanoid characteristics, and more importantly humans and monkey’s/prime apes genes are 95% similar.

So it does not say we evolved from monkeys but have a common ancestor, that ancestor of course which is now long extinct …to put the rest of “if we come from monkeys then why are they still here….”


This same friend also said “there is not one shred of evidence supporting evolution”
… you mean other than the dozens of fossils that have been found to have been dating thousands of years back that showed not only the genetic changes [if any were found, which is rare] but also shows the physical changes of the shape and form of the our ancient ancestors to what we are now? As well as how they evolved differently given the climate, and food available to them?

I found this on another Christian blogger site.

The answer to your question, is yes, I am a godless atheist. But is that not sort of redundant? Does not the term atheist already imply a disbelief in a deity? But that is not my issue.

For this Christian site went on and on of the evil acts of atheist, on their list they attributed “the greatest act” to Hitler; no offense but eh, Stalin, Mao... REAL ATHEIST; who made Hitler’s little killing spree, look like child’s play. They, the real atheist took a back seat to a catholic as the greatest atrocity committed by an atheist.

Sorry to burst your theistic bubble, but Hitler was not an atheist, he was very much a theist and made no secret of it in his speeches, here are a few Hitler quotes:

"To do justice to God and our own conscience, we have turned once more to the German Volk."
...doing justice for god.

"We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out."
...wanting to stamp out the atheist movement [which he meant the communist movement...who just happen to be atheist at that time ..well the ones he was referring to]


"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice. ...And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people are plundered and exploited."

… hm, feelings as a Christian, god’s truth, our lord….

This is the most religious atheist I have ever seen….

 


Carry on Comrades

Quick comic strip I did...

This blog was written out of my atheistic boredom, I do not expect a lot of in depth answers regarding the information in this piece, but as usual if I do happen to get any answers I will answer all of em as full and detailed as I can

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