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Blogging Buffoon Activated

This all started when I originally commented on a youtube video entitled
My Dad says I’m going to hell
LINK

This is a debate with a Christian that stemmed from another debate I had with a Christian.

I will say that cheecker121 and I came to a mutual understand, and she was very cool about accepting others. Then 777bosstown answered me and … well this is where the debate

This debate has been going on for now..for weeks...

I am waxxjf in this exchange.

Nothing has been changed EXCEPT sometimes it took two or more comments and I just made each of them into one comment so it would be easier to read rather than seeing waxxjf said 3x in a row.


It did towards the end turn into a mixture of religion and politics..

*this debate isn't over* the last reply is just a few hours old..so when he answers I will update*
... he is a big conservative fox news supporter given the comments I saw him write on other youtube videos..


I wasn't going to post this here, since many on my list are not fans of politics...and several actually is against socialism... even though several admit they do not know the history of socialism in America... but okay... since we are in America I am speaking of democratic socialism...and everyone knows I am an atheist.. But spinoza said to post it so ..I did

Sadly, many Americans who "so against the idea of socialism"... has no knowledge of the history of American socialism

*random funny*
the conservative poster boy, glenn beck.. last year spoke of thomas paine as being a radical, socialist, religion hating, progressive... saying that the "left" will try and use him, saying Paine was a revolutionary, and he was, and tried to have an issue with obama taking the oath of allegiance in front of a picture of Thomas paine...  and more, everything that beck claims to hate...

Earlier this year, Beck said he is the Thomas paine of today hm, so beck is a socialist, progressive, revolutionary, religion hating, deist, liberal? hm, Beck, you just said you're everything you claim to hate hahah

..okay here is the debate

It is a scroll menu so you will have to scroll down.

It is six full pages of writing...so you can just skim through if you like.. or just comment and have fun

I honestly don't know how this thing got so lengthy, who would of thought a xtian would get so bothered by me, an atheist, NOT hating his religion, and saying believe whatever you want...

Here are some other debates I have been in, in the past.

Debating a Christian on Homosexuality
Total Debate: 18 Pages
Part I : LINK
Part II : LINK

Old political Debate
Total Debate: 6 Pages
Here: LINK

Socialism Debate II
Total Debate: 3 Pages
Here: LINK

Socialism Debate I : This one is actually with a fu member, conservative mumm
Total Debate: 7 Pages
Here: LINK

Atheistic America Debate : Another debate with that conservative mummer
Total Debate: 7 Pages
Here: LINK

Abortion Debate: Yay..with a conservative mummer :P
Total Debate: 4 Pages
Here : LINK

Socialism Debat III: with a youtube guy..a very conservative guy
Total Debate: 11 Pages
LINK

Disclaimer: If you are easily offended by idiocy then I urge you to not continue, this blog shall keep the original language in a non-politically correct way the person said them in. It is not meant to offend any one, but if you are easily offend, please take your box of crayons, that coloring book, that plastic helmet and proceed to the myspace kiddy corner check out line... thank you.

Blogging Buffoon Activated

Since spinoza dumb ass is too fucking slow to do a blog the silly bitch asked me to do one.

Okay here goes, it has recently come to my attention that because I am an atheist, I am a judgmental prick who will burn in hell.

What was my remark that got this theist so riled up? What was my "judgmental" remark? Well I simply made the TRUE statement that the being known as god is a subjective entity... with me making a statement about a subjective being, I was judging him.

Oh yes, I am also "assuming" that religious people and atheist see each other as delusional.. um, that is not an assumption, but a very logical fact...but okay.


It has also came to my attention that because I find patriotism especially in its advanced chauvinistic xenophobic style of patriotism to be the most retarded thing in the world... well ...

Well according to one America, lets call him Bob, Bob from .. let us say from Theviant Darts said I should leave America, a land he loves.

Oh yes and bob said because he was a soldier that I should respect him, no silly little soldier boy, respect is earned, not simply given because you were doing your fucking job...


Oh another thing about bob... he said I should take my socialist friends and move to fucking cuba...

When I asked bob a very simple yes or no question, Bob, do you know about the socialist in American history?

... bob answered back with "there are no fucking socialist in American History!!!! Just a few liberal commie bastards from other places who came here to start fucking trouble"

I take it bob never heard of Debs, Sinclair, Rustin, Randolph, Bellamy and the countless other American Socialist

.....so since "bob" has shown his self to be yet another worthless soldier, who washed out after a few months, with no knowledge of American History, why should I respect bob?

Oh yes, bob said to make sure I take my fag friends with me when I move.... great, you fags come with me, I need someone to decorate the cave and from what I can see you fags are good at that type of stuff.

.... you bull dykes can work security.

According to this bob,the "wetbacks" only want to come here to live off the American people.

Okay bob, after doing construction with a company for two years, and working on my own for several years I will say one key difference I have seen between these "wetbacks" and Americans...

these "wet backs" tend to be much more hard working, and I never hear them bitching when lunch is over as I did the many Americans I worked with.


Okay here goes the two most basic styles of political ideologies, conservatives and liberal...

Why do idiot conservatives think that being called a liberal is a bad thing?

I mean let us look at the several basic definitions of conservatives:
1: Resistant to change

2: Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change

3: Traditional or restrained in style:

Okay so basically you are so fucking fearful that some flamer, different gender, different sexual orientation, different race will have the same things that you hold dear? You fear this so much that you actively resist at every point for no other reason than you can..

Okay now let us look at a few definitions for liberals:

1: broad: showing or characterized by broad-mindedness; "a broad political stance"; "generous and broad sympathies"; "a liberal newspaper"; "tolerant of his opponent's opinions"

2: Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.

3: Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.


Oh yea, I have an open mind to accept differing view points as long as in general society as a whole progress in a more positive way for everyone..

Oh yes, you conservatives, let us not forget that liberal, liberty, etc comes from the latin word "liber" which means

liber (1) -era -erum [free , independent, unrestrained; free from, exempt]. Adv. libere, [freely, without restraint, frankly, openly, boldly].

Silly liberals with their want for the advancement of society



JEWS!!! The Chosen people of….

Well according to a christian friend, she respects the jews because they are the “chosen people” to which me in all of my atheism said to myself hm, I must call Paul over, Paul is my jewish friend who is not very eh, well does not feel the same..

Paul told her that while she considers them the chosen people, that they have no real positive view  on Christians in general, as far as believing in their savior and things of that nature..well he said a lot more than that but I am too lazy to.

So to you christians, why are the jews the chosen people? ? because your Christ was supposedly a jew?


While watching them debate she asked me what I think of Christians, to not seem so anti-theistic, I just said the only quote that came to mind, I could not think of a better way to say it than Gandhi said it…

Gandhi said “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”… which I suppose as a general concept in relation to feelings on Christians this could be said. Though for me it would be I like the concept of your Christ… etc.



Damn, a quick one page blog is now 2 and the half pages, I will just stop here.

Blame Spinoza, he is the one who told me to blog this...

Yes I know Homo Erectus has nothing to do with gays :P

Ah, well this is certainly different than the many political debates I get in on here....

Blogging Buffoon Activated

Damn fu has blog limit..so for .. this is part two...For part I click here

for all... three of you actually who keep telling me to update this crap... youtube debates are fun....

Addy4473
@waxxjf: :) You just need to understand what I'm trying to say. So I'll sum up in this message.

1. Jesus may not have outright spoken against homosexuality, but that doesn't mean that He condoned the process. Jesus is God, the Son of God. Thus, He humbles Himself to the Father, and agrees with the Father. He is in the Father, and the Father in Him. If God the Father instituted a law against homosexuality, He will not disagree with the Father, but on the contrary, agree with Him. Thus, if God the Father says that it is an abomination, Jesus will agree with Him. It's common sense.

That alone shows that you need to think about what you're telling me before you type it. I'm telling you, He never talked about beastiality either; never condemned it; but does that mean that He condoned it? If you deny this claim, then you belief in a ridiculous claim. I'm sorry, I'm trying to be loving, but you are lashing out, so I have to state it as it is.

2. The statistics themselves are unbiased. You see, I've looked up statistics that support homosexuality; they are unbiased as well. I can't invalidate them just because I'm against them. In fact, I believe that they are valid. However, they only state hate-crimes and population statistics. They don't necessarily give a good view for homosexuality, they just state general truths, such as in 1973, it was removed as a disease, or statistics against hate crimes. I don't condone hate crimes; I believe we should show love towards homosexuals. However, that doesn't condone the action. My statistics show the physical harm in homosexuality. They are valid statistics. Are you sure you aren't disowning them just because they are against your cause?

3. The many religions? I can't disown this claim. However, you have to understand a few things. A. The earliest known "Savior" religion; B. Palestine between 6 B.C.-30 A.D. (The context of the situation itself, such as if such religions surrounded Palestinian area) C. The validity of these religions.

4. I'm not claiming that atheists don't have moral values. I do claim, however, that they don't have objective moral values. As in, their moral values are either self-fabricated or adopted. In Christianity, we are given a law to abide by; thus, we have objective moral values.

5. Christ's coming was predicted all the way back at the fall of man, in the book of Genesis. Genesis 3:15 is a direct prediction from God himself. Predictions all over the New Testament assert the coming of a Messiah, thus, the original Messiah originates from the beginning. Jesus is the first proclaimed Savior. And the only one. :)

6. Your claims for the inconsistencies in the text? State a few. :)

7. I won't argue with you about "bigoted" love. I know my own motives, and you can assume what you want. Analyze your own motives for arguing against me and compare them to mine. Be honest, and tell me why you say what you do, and I'll be honest too. I've already stated mine; I care about you and I care about homosexuals, and I want them to see that the way they live is destructive. I can see that from here. However, I want to show them a better life; and they have to make the choice. I can't force anything on anyone. However, whether you think it's bigoted or not does not make it bigoted. Your logic is prone to error, and cannot evaluate my motives. So. :)

8. Once again, there are 3 different rules in Leviticus; Ceremonial, Civil, Moral. Not eating shellfish, Sabbath regulations, etc. are no longer in effect, but God's moral laws are still in effect. Such as, men laying with other men, incest, bestiality, etc. :) God's Word does not change. However, the civil and ceremonial laws were specified for Israel.

9. I am not judging, as I've stated previously; God's Word judges. I cannot judge, I only speak His word. If you don't like me, that's something I have to live with. The truth hurts, friend.

God bless :) anything else? Let's try to keep this on a friendlier level, btw.


waxxjf
@Addy4473:  I understood well and clear what you were trying to say, I just do not believe it. So therefore since I hold no belief in what you believe your issues of morality and sin, I would never agree with more than likely. But sure, I shall address your points as I have gotten them in numbered faction.

1] Yes I am well aware of your polytheistic beliefs, well Christians say monotheistic but when you have three entities that make up one, that is still a polytheistic belief.

Anyway let me now address your points. Jesus if you read the bible was very outspoken of what he wanted or expected from a people, as well as very outspoken of what he went against. He spoke very harshly against the church of the time, he spoke very harshly of the wealthy, very harshly of the man who could do something but chose not to.

So your saying of all the things that he spoke against, the sins he spoke against, this just happen to slip his mind? You’re saying that him never mentioned it does not mean he condones, I am saying him never mentioning it, does not mean he hated it.

You are speaking from the words of men, not Christ who spoke of men and women, you are speak of god, in the Hebrew bible who spoke against not laying with men as they do women. What you are missing, is the words from your Christ himself.

If you are saying Christ was against this… yet he spoke nothing of it. Yet every other thing pretty much that he was against he spoke against freely.

You are saying God said it, yes I know in Christianity father, son, and holy spirit all make up god, yet even with that logic, saying one said it, does not mean you can just attribute it to the other.

No difference than your not saying something means you endorse it.

“That alone shows that you need to think about what you're telling me before you type”
Oh yea, saying one entity said something, but not the other, means he just went with it, is me having to think… um, no because there is a gaping hole of lack of logic within that illogical circular logic.

Once again, there you go attempting to compare homosexuality to bestiality. So you equate two same sex humans, with sex with an animal?

He would not have to say that because it is unnatural for man to have sex with an animals.

It is not unnatural for two males to have sex, for even before the time of your god, Judaism, Islam, even ancient wall paintings show two men engaging in sex, or the Romans it was no secret that they engaged in some same sex practices.

So do make logical comparisons before debunking your own premise with illogical claims.

2] You say the statistics are unbiased, yet you have not shown me the statistics. What you have done is link me to a site, you, yourself admit is anti-homosexuality. Even that site could not show the statistics themselves.

If you showed me the statistics, and I can read the entire statistic, as well as take the year as a factor within the statistics, then whether I agree with them or not, it would be true or false. But you, by your own admission, do not know the name of the statistics, do not know the group that performed the statistic, do not know if they have website or not.

Of course you believe they are valid, because they support what you believe, and that is that homosexuals are immoral,

Are you trying to use legal remedies for your bible dear sir? To say because it is no longer a mental disorder, or it was added to the hate crime list that that in some way supports your biblical claims?

“Are you sure you aren't disowning them just because they are against your cause?”
What cause? Sir, you have not shown me any statistic.

You have said 73% of gays are depressed, 78% of gays have had some STD.

But you cannot remember where you saw it, you cannot remember what group did the study, and you of course cannot remember their site.

The only site you did link me to, once again, you yourself admitted it was an anti-gay site. Even they could not show the statistics themselves.

3]A -  There are many savior religions, or rather there were, many ancient beliefs had some sort of savior within them. Or had people who had been born into beliefs that were said to be prophets.

B- I suppose it depends on what you mean Palestinian make up rather then their religious beliefs.

C. What religion are you speaking of; The spiritualist type of beliefs that you and even the people there now deem as myths and superstition. I mean you cannot be speaking of Islam because islam was not even a religion until hundreds of years later. Or are you referring to the Roman conversion to Christianity?

4] No, in Christianity you have a sense of common sense morality that you think are from a god. They are common sense things, generally as far as your commandments go. That you attempt to say do this not because it is right or wrong, but for the mere fact that some god said it is right or wrong.

That is not objective morality, especially since as I have stated it has been altered several times in its 2000 years since its dawning, objective or rather undistorted it is not.

It is a nice little allegory to tell the people what they should already know, yet that does not make it “the truth” because someone wrote down what either was already written down from Hebrew bible, or wrote down what was already.

5] A prophet coming has been the center for every religion for thousands of years, and for most of them their prophet did come, and for some of them, what do you know those ancients “prophets’ or gods, could do the exact same thing as your Christ, does that make them less than?

First savior? … I guess you never read up on ancient religions.

6] Just a few, of which you will try and explain them I am sure.

One verse states god was pleased with his creation Genesis 1:31, yet later in genesis it says god was not pleased genesis 6:5-6.

Also in genesis it contradicts when Adam dies, one passage states when eating from the tree of knowledge you would die, genesis 2:17 … yet said Adam lived for 930 years genesis 5:5

Hm or when god asked cain where is his brother, genesis 4:9 … yet in several verses I could name god speaking of no one being able to hide from em, and he is everywhere and sees everything and that nothing is hidden to him, would you like the verses to this?

As well as in genesis they have noah entering his Ark for the first time…and then a few verses later have him entering the ark for the first time yet again, Genesis 7:7 and genesis 7:13.

In matthew jesus heals two blind men, in mark he only heals one.

Revelation 8:7.. fields of grass were burned…relevation 9:4. no grass was burned and nothing green was to be burned,

God said noah, job and a few others were righteous yet in romans 3:10  says that no one is righteous

Okay I have given you seven, I could have given you several more but I shall stop here.

7] Once again, it is bigoted if it comes with conditions, or if you are hating or disliking, or finding in them just for who they are. That is bigotry, to judge not based on a person for what they have done, but for simply who they are. Be it because they gay, black, white, muslim etc.

I have already told you my reasons, I accept all people, I do not care of your beliefs, I do not care of your sexual orientation, I do not care of your race, ethnicity, gender, I can be cool with everyone, and I do not judge them based on these things. I do judge them for what they do, how they treat others.

Yet you are judging people, not for anything they have done, for simply who they are.

“I want to show them a better life”
You are under the assumption that your life is better. How do you know they are not happy?

I know plenty of homosexual Christians, and the one thing they have in common, is that their god, loves them no matter what, that their god will judge them for what they have done not for who they were born as. They believe that their god is one of love, not hatred but going to judge them for being how they believe he made them.. and they are some of the happiest people I know.

But your staking a claim, they are unhappy and depressed, oh yes disease ridden as well, because of… touching back.. on unsupported statistics.

You saying you judge them for what they are, that is bigotry. Or your saying you are trying to save them from themselves. If everyone truly sins and no sin is greater than the other as you claim. Then why not focus on another, why is this particular group holds such a great destruction to you?

Granted you being an ex homosexuals knows better than I do of such things, maybe you were one of these extreme cases, maybe not. Yet that does not answer the question of why are they are so “lucky” to be targeted.

It is easier to target a minority that is use to being victimized than to look at the mirror and judge ourselves for what we do.

8] wait, did you just say no longer in effect. Wait, did I read that correctly? No longer in effect. You are the one who said gods laws do not change, so if they are no longer in affect.

Speaking of incest, you are aware that there were several incestuous relationships going on in the bible don’t you? Lot slept with his daughters, Abraham married his half sister, Abrahams brother married his niece. Amnon raped his own sister.

…what a sin.

9] Actually you said previously that you are judging out of love, which is still judging.

Addy4473
@waxxjf: Friend, you misunderstand the Holy trinity.

1. The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit are all God; it's not polytheistic. It's the same idea of family. Multiple persons consist of one family. Thus, The idea that multiple persons can consist of one God is possible. However, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are equal in power. God the Son submits to the Father, and the Spirit is God's presence. The Father and The Son are One. The Bible states that they are one another. Say, for instance, that God the Father condemned murder, but Jesus supported it. If they are both God and contradict one another, then chaos would erupt, and the idea that they are both the same God would fall apart. But they harmonize in perfection with one another. Thus, they do not contradict one another. You lack the understanding of the nature of the Holy Trinity. They are 3 persons in one. They cannot contradict one another, for they are all God. It's confusing, but it's true. There is only one God. It's not polytheistic. Jesus condemns homosexuality.

Yes, He never mentioned it. But He does give God's idea for marriage in Matthew 19. You can't just say that He condones marriage based on your interpretation of His love. His love is vast, as vast as His justice. But He cannot tolerate sin. Homosexuality is a sin. Jesus never condones it. He condemns it. It's not man's word, but God's word. You just fail to understand the relationship.

Look I can see your motive here. You're just trying to irritate me in order to "win". What have you truly won? Your life has no ultimate meaning. You can't even confirm your own truth. I'm trying to help you, and you've done nothing but antagonized me. In your world, we are just accidents. It doesn't matter what you do, just benefit yourself until you die, and that's it. I can't argue with someone that just wants to tear someone down that's trying to help them. I'm sorry if this seems hurtful, but we're both biased here. The only difference is the motive. I want to help you, but you only wish to try to invalidate my Bible. I could continue arguing against you, but it would be to no avail. You've already decided you're going to close your heart against me. I've tried helping you, but Jesus also told me not to dangle pearls in front of swine. Your own biased views have led you into this hateful frenzy. I am a bit irritated, but I still love you. I'm not going to try anymore. I'll keep praying for you. If you think you've won, then it's fine. You'll never truly know until you either give your life to Christ, or you're in hell (which, I don't want you to go there, but I can't make the decision for you). God bless you. :)



waxxjf
@Addy4473:  so of everything you asked you only saw it fit to address one…. As I said in my reply to you, I said you believe them to be one already …

Yet it is a bit different than families, surely they are all one family, yet you would not attribute what one said to the other.

“, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are equal in power. God the Son submits to the Father, and the Spirit is God's presence”

They are equal but one is over the rest.. hm,… okay then.

Once again I have already stated that you believe they are one…

“Jesus condemns homosexuality.”
Do show one verse backing up your claim. To say the father, son and holy spirit are three separate entities making up one “god” show any place where Jesus spoke against gays.

I will give you that god “spoke” against gays, as did several others, but jesus never did.

Um, he does give gods idea for marriage, and then you give a gospel which was written by someone else. From a verse that religious scholars are even torn about who wrote it. Some believe Matthew wrote it, other scholars believe a Jewish convert to Christianity wrote it and others believe it can be attributed to the writings of ancient greek, all still show the importance of jesus not writing it.

No where did I say that he “condones’ or demonizing marriage, I said gays, a sexuality is not an act. Sexuality is feeling, marriage is an act. I said gays, not marriage.

You say he condemns it…. Do show a verse where a gospel says jesus says this or that.

Assuming you also already  know that many of the gospels were written long after jesus died.

Um, my motives? Let us not forget you commented me on that video. Let us not forget that you first brought up the morality and such when I only answered a guy about if people followed the bible literally.

There is no winning or losing in something that is subjective. There is opinion, you have yours, and I have mines. That is all.

Who said life has no meaning? You say life has a meaning because you have god, I say life’s meaning is what you do with it.  Ones life meaning could be the raising of their children, the love within their friendships. Meaning is like faith, subjective to interpretation.

“You can't even confirm your own truth”
Hm, what truth? Everything I said can be backed up with health department.

Then you challenged me to find inconsistencies in the bible, I gave you seven.
Then you spoke of incest being a sin, I gave you several cases of incest in the bible.

So what truths of mines have I not backed up?

In my world, what world is that?

Oh do show me one place, one place where I said what you do in your life does not matter, even one.

“I can't argue with someone that just wants to tear someone down that's trying to help them.”
…from the guy who said you judge them, because you love them… hypocrisy

“I'm sorry if this seems hurtful”
what part of you cannot hurt me did you not get?

Hurt stems from betrayal, and betrayal implies trust.

“I want to help you”
Hm, help me? How are you helping me? We went from you wanting to help gays, and now to me. Even though I have told you I am not gay.

“but you only wish to try to invalidate my Bible”
no where did I invalidate the bible.
You are the one who asked for the inconsistencies, you are the one who spoke of incest.

So because your bible backed up my claim of there being inconsistencies, as well as incest I am the one trying to invalidate it now?

“You've already decided you're going to close your heart against me”
I will not disrespect your beliefs, by entertaining them. So if close my heart you mean I will never agree with you, then yes, you are correct.

“I've tried helping you, but Jesus also told me not to dangle pearls in front of swine.”
So I am now likened to swine, I have been called dear sir.

“Your own biased views have led you into this hateful frenzy.”
Hateful frenzy? Saying I will not judge others based on their race, religion, sexual orientation is hateful.. on the contrary dear sir, to not judge based on such trivial things is the best thing that one can do.

“If you think you've won, then it's fine.”
Once again, there is no winning, there are but subjective opinions of beliefs.

You may keep your Christ, if it makes you happy, by all means, be happy. Yet I am more than content, probably more so with not having your Christ, than you are with having him

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I will update when he answers.....

Blame Spinoza, he is the one who told me to blog this...

Yes I know Homo Erectus has nothing to do with gays :P

Ah, well this is certainly different than the many political debates I get in on here....

Blogging Buffoon Activated

This all started because a guy [greatestever11] made a comment about if people believed and followed the bible literally that we would be stoning 99% of our teenagers.. so I replied to him  agreeing with him basically…

I am waxxjf of course in the debate. I may get a new page soon…

I am a straight male Atheist who does not like any type of bigotry, be it religious to a sexual orientation, be it theist beating up on another theistic beliefs, etc… okay here is the debate

If he ever answers I shall update this post and put my reply as well, I will not be changing anything, so any spelling or grammatical errors shall stay.


Waxxjf: @greatestever11
I do always find it funny when people bring up Leviticus ... which is from the Hebrew bible.

if Jesus was so anti-gay, why in all of the gospels of Jesus he never mentioned gays at all?

Speaking of your mentioning of what the bible says, that book also says your daughter can be sold into slavery, you can stone your mother to death for wearing a gown made from two different fabrics, killed if you work on a Sunday, killed if you touch a dead pig... do you follow these as well? Gospels, did jesus never mention gays at all I meant.

..and two weeks later someone replied to me….

He didn’t say this part to me, but this was his comment right before he commented me….

Addy4473: That's horrible. We Christians love homosexuals, we just hate their sins. I pray that every homosexual will see how wrong their actions are, but it's just something that probably won't happen. But if I can save one from living in destruction, then at the very least one soul is saved from hell. God bless.

[Then he replied to me….]

Addy4473
@waxxjf He didn't mention them, but He does mention God's idea for marriage and supports it in Matthew Chapter 19. Just because He never mentioned it doesn't mean He doesn't condone it. that He does condone it* sorry lol. It's wrong. Jesus is God, so in that sense, He condemns the action unless you repent and are washed through His blood.


waxxjf
@Addy4473 Look at what you said, biblical text, which is not suppose to have any affect on the rights of the citizens, says the constitution. The government should not allow the bible, and bigotry to dictate the laws.

Whether you like gays or not, that is millions of citizens who because of their sexual orientation are being denied the same civil liberties as the rest. The constitution clearly speaks of sexual orientation, race, religion etc never being a factor within the law.

Addy4473
@waxxjf I'm basing it on Jesus' truth. :) And you used an argument against "our side" using biblical knowledge, didn't you? Anywho we should forsake our ideas of right and wrong and seek God's truth. The majority of people can't change His law.

I love homosexuals, I just don't condone their actions. The same goes for God. And just because you have an orientation (or an attraction, basically) for something doesn't mean you condone it. so. :p

waxxjf
@Addy4473 It has nothing to do with your ideas of right and wrong. You can believe in whatever you choose, no where in my post did I say you cannot. Yet, your religious beliefs should never dictate the laws of this land, nor should it even be allowed.

In this republic we are not suppose to make laws that violate the civil liberties of our lands, that is what they are attempting to do.

I do find it funny when people speak about what their god would condone. Have you read that book?

How many things did "god" not condone that have become socially acceptable? If those who believe choose now to not pay any attention that which has become socially acceptable, why would they choose to believe in the bigoted part of the book.

Addy4473
@waxxjf They aren't my ideas, my friend. It's God's Word, and I follow His Word, not my ideas :). His word is constant, never-changing. We should follow the Lord; that is why we are in such a mess right now. We are soon to fall, and unless we seek the Lord, then our country will not last much longer. Any nation that follows God and obeys Him prospers. :) Any nation that does otherwise fails. Read what book? The Bible? Of course. :) And what is your point? What are you talking about?

The bigoted part of the book? The Bible is not biased; it applies for everyone human being. It's a mirror that allows you to see how you live your life, and reflects who you truly are. It isn't meant to make you "feel good". On the contrary, usually something guilty in your life is shown, and you are given the opportunity to repent to God and to be cleansed through Jesus' blood. :). We as Christians pay attention to things that have become socially acceptable. That is why we speak against things that are evil. :) We stand up for God's truth. Just because it's socially acceptable doesn't make it right. The act of homosexuality is horrible, but so are heterosexual sins. In fact, I'm inclined to admit that heterosexuals tend to distort the ideas of marriage more than homosexuals. But that does not condone homosexuality. God instituted marriage between a man and a woman for our benefit. God's gift to us is marriage. :) Homosexuality, for the most part, does not work.

waxxjf
@Addy4473 It does not apply to all human, it applies to only those who believe in it as you do.

"that is why we speak against things that are evil"
So gays are now "evil".

Question for you, since this is "god's truth", then why has it been rewritten hundreds of time BY MAN? Or did man now speak to god and he said the old rules no longer applied to modern standards?

"God instituted marriage between a man and a woman for our benefit."

You do know people have been getting married long before the idea of god even came about don't you?

"Homosexuality, for the most part, does not work. "
Hm, do tell.


Addy4473
@waxxjf It applies to all that want to live a life of righteousness. And no, I'm not saying homosexuals are evil. Just their actions. It's an evil act. Rewritten? The Word has been rewritten in different languages, with different styles of languages, but the meaning and conclusion of the Word itself has been maintained since the original documents were written by the authors. Nothing has changed in God's Word. As for the old rules, you mean the old testament rules? Ceremonial rules and civil rules don't apply. But moral laws still apply today. And people getting married before the idea of God? Hmm where do you get this information from? :) jw. As for homosexuality not working out; the statistics are against homosexuality. 73% of homosexuals are depressed. 70% of those that are admit it has nothing to do with bullying (social circumstances, etc.). The average lifespan of a heterosexual is around 70 years. The average lifespan of a homosexual WITHOUT AIDS/HIV is around 40  years. That's without any form of STDs. Homosexual relationships don't work out either. Surveys from homosexual research groups trying to validate homosexual relationships actually prove that they don't last. It's an itch you can't scratch. I believe, truly, that homosexuals just want to be happy; but I also know that engaging in same-sex relations will not bring happiness. True happiness comes from serving God. :) God bless you

[What I was thinking but didn’t say]] Wait, the average lifespan for a gay guy, without any A.I.D.S/HIV is 40 years old.. I really wished I had asked where he got his states from [end thought]

waxxjf
@Addy4473 Do show me this study.

STDs? So us straight people do not get STDs? The newest highest statistics for the Aids/HIV & other STD's are not gays, it is straight people who do not engage in any type of homosexual behaviior. So... I would your theory is a bit flawed.

The problem with many religious people, I don't know about you, yet many religious people think it is a choice, it is not a choice.

I am straight and I know I did not "choose" to be straight. I was born that way, as were they. Are they not allowed to be happy in relationships just because you do not agree with it?

... You do know that most gay people are religious right? They just do not believe their god is bigoted like the one written in man made text.

Addy4473
@waxxjf Friend, I can't just pull out the statistics. I could send you links to websites. But some of the statistics are things that have been recorded that can't be found online. You just have to look at the numbers, ya know? :) Anywho. I'm not saying that we don't get STDs. Heterosexual sins are just as bad as homosexual sins, and they are not tolerated by God either. However, I'm just stating that homosexuality (the action) is a sin, and it's quite clear in the Bible. Anyone that submits to God will live a righteous live. But if you engage in worldly affairs, then your life will be void of true happiness. My theory? It's more like data that I've accumulated that I'm presenting to you. It's fact that homosexuality leads to many STDs, and that the relationships do not work out. As for the choice factor, I'll agree that the feelings are not choices. I too had homosexual feelings about a year ago. But that feeling is a mere speck. When Jesus came into my life, and I submitted to Him, my heterosexual tendencies increased, and my homosexual tendencies decreased. :) So it's a miracle indeed! Praise be to God :). However, the choice we talk about is whether or not you choose to engage in those actions. You can deal with those feelings and learn to live with them and even possibly overcome then (nothing is impossible with Jesus. Mark 9:23 :) ) or you can engage in them. If you submit to Jesus, you can overcome. Thousands of cases of people giving their lives to Jesus after living homosexual lifestyles have been submitted, and they diminished those feelings, and in some cases overcame the feelings totally! As for being happy, that's the point. There is no guarantee that it will make them happy. 70% of homosexuals are unhappy (Homosexuals that engage and condone the conduct). It's an itch you can't scratch. Ex-homosexuals can tell you that. As for most gay people being religious? They believe in their own version of God, and not the true God.

God condemns homosexuality (the action), but He offers a way out of sin. Through His Son Jesus. With Jesus, your sins can be wiped clean! But um they believe in a God that condones homosexuality because they want their actions to be condoned. So. They don't believe in the true God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. :)

waxxjf
@Addy4473 70% ? ....once again, you keep saying that, show me the statistics from a GAY GROUP, not a biased bigoted christian group on gay statistics. Well since you are attempting to use stats to bolster your arguments, it would be wise to back them up to links where you get your info from.

"But if you engage in worldly affairs, then your life will be void of true happiness" That did not make much sense to be honest.

It is data, that you don't remember where you got it, that may or may not be online, and is from more than likely biased groups.

Sex with many partners lead to many STD's, the fact is while the STD's in homosexuals have been going down, STD's in straights have been going up.

It is not a miracle, to turn away from love, be it gay, straight whatever.

I am an atheist, so I hold no water in your man made text, yet what I do dislike, is bigotry, in any form. Hating this person, just because, for no other reason than your text says so. It is not as if homosexuality is something new...and has been recorded in history before your, or the jewish bible was even written.

Homosexuals should be happy with whomever they choose, why should your text dictate their lives, especially if they do not believe in as you do.

Your book also speaks of not judging people, yet Christians are at the forefront in America of demonizing gays, and attempting to put down their civil liberties.

•  Addy4473
@waxxjf Friend, I speak as someone saved by the grace of God. Jesus' blood flows through me. First of all, your request for Gay Group percentages, in turn, shows a bias in itself. These are statistics that are taken from unbiased groups. I can show you two links, but if you consider them to be biased, then I'm afraid it would do you no good, bud. The same can be concluded for your "gay group" statistics. They are biased, or so they would seem. However, these statistics are also sourced outside of the internet. So I can't send you the link, and I don't have the information at hand. However, it's kinda hard not to be biased, seeing as how I'm against homosexuality. Also, friend, not all Christian's hate homosexuals. We're not all bigots. In fact. many homosexuals are "bigots" because they have a grudge towards heterosexuals, but not all homosexuals are bigots. My man made text is inspired by the Holy Spirit. :) 78% of homosexuals have had contact with STDs. Wow! Even if they are going down, they've still a ways to go! And your statistics against homosexuality need to be directed towards sinful lifestyles, not towards true followers of Christ. Heterosexual marriage is perfectly legit, as long as it follows the lines of God's idea of marriage. Of course, it's nothing new. The book of Leviticus is recorded by Moses, who wrote these books in the 1400s. The events of Sodom and Gomorrah happened between 2000-1900 B.C., so of course these acts have existed before the compilation of the Bible itself. :) Homosexuals should follow what's right, not pursuing happiness that won't last. They should pursue the right path: Jesus Christ, who will help them through their sufferering. In the end, a homosexual lifestyle leads to destruction. And yes, it's a miracle to give up a love for evil, and to hate evil instead. It's an evil lifestyle, a deceiving one. :) You must confront these claims, and discredit them, whether you think they're biased or not.

The statistics are overwhelming, and I'm saying this because it is more important to pursue what's right than what makes one happy. It makes a rapist happy to rape; a murder happy to murder; then what stops us from condoning their actions? They are "happy" at that moment! But it brings pain in the end. We can't condone something just because of a loving factor. Homosexuals have love for each other just as murders, pedophiles, murders, rapists, animal offenders, fornicators, etc. have love love for one another. But the conclusion is, this love is evil and will not last. Only God's holy love can last, and only His love can redefine our love. Love is not confined to a feeling; that is mere affection. Love is more of a willing; a willing to love someone you don't have a natural love for. That is true love, my friend. And I love you very much. God bless you :)

waxxjf
@Addy4473 You say these are statistics that are from unbiased groups, groups that you can't remember where you got the info from, that may or may not have a website... hm, doesn't sound like it's on the money.

You say these are outside of the internet, then what is the name of the group who made this statistic? If they are a recognized group they will more than likely have a website of some sort.

No where did I say all christians hate gays.

Do you think that could be possibly because of the average heterosexual's view of them?

...actually it isn't, if you study religion you would see that that book is made up of many different faiths that have been around for thousands of years before the bible was even written.

Once again, there you go, 78%.. where is your source!...

That would be hypocritical for me to tell them to not be happy for a belief that I have no use for.

For you maybe, but for Me, if it makes you happy, and no one is hurt, do enjoy it.

Are you actually trying to compare gays to rapist, pedophiles, murderers and bestiality man? I mean REALLY.... If you really wish to make a comparison, would be wise to not use crimes that are mostly committed by heterosexuals...just a thought.

You speak of loving, yet all you have done on here is demonize them. Not for anything they have done, but simply for who they are, how is that showing love?

You may keep the bigoted love, the love that comes with the condition of submission and an intolerance for others not like you. That is a love that is not loving but rather conditional, to which is not love at all.

Addy4473
@waxxjf You're misinterpreting, friend. :) You have already decided that anything I show you will be biased, so what's the point in showing you the website? I can give you two websites if you wish, just ask for them, but you have to be open-minded to the statistics. Also, the Bible was composed from books that date back to around 1400 B.C.-92 A.D. There are other letters of Paul and books that could have been added, but they were excluded for certain reasons. The Bible is constructed for its validity. It parallels with history, currency, historical figures, etc. and has been around for centuries. And I'm comparing homosexuality, heterosexual sins, sins of murder, hate, discord; all sin is equally fit. So I'm not excusing anyone. :) Um.... I'm not demonizing anyone I'm just trying to show you the truth. I'm doing this out of a desperate love for you. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here. I'm not trying to put you down, I just want you to see the truth. Bigoted love? We don't judge until we remove the beam from our eyes; then we judge out of love, because we don't want anyone to live in sin, we want them to be free of sin. We know how devastating it is, and we want to free people like you from it. :) It's a much happier life, and of course, there is tribulation and sorrow, but Jesus will always be with you. :)

[I sent this to him in a private message because youtube only allows so much per message and I did not want to break it all up…]

waxxjf
@Addy4473:  What is it that I misinterpreted? Do tell. It is biased for your using your text as a means to condemn people you have never met, to condemn people not for anything they may or may not have done, but for simply who they are. Open minded? Do tell me sir, why would I need to be open minded on statistics you claimed were unbiased? If they are truly unbiased, they would have no agenda, and thus why would I have to give them leeway? Well the bible’s timeline is a lot longer than 92 A.D. Even Christian scholars say this.

Okay just clarifying because that is not what your statement of “Homosexuals have love for each other just as murders, pedophiles, murders, rapists, animal offenders, fornicators, etc” said, it did not speak of heterosexuals, yet used homosexuals love as it compared to the formerly mentioned.

You are demonizing them, by saying they are wrong, they are depressed, though I would like to see an unbiased statistic that shows, as you have claimed that 73% of homosexuals are depressed, or your other claim that says 78% of them have had some type of STD, I would like to see theses statistics. You used them to somehow bolster your claims of why it is wrong. Yet as in my original statement, just because it is in the bible as wrong, does not make it wrong.

We can look at things the bible says is wrong, that have become socially accepted, and as such people do not subscribe to that particular part of the bible. I understand that it is easy to pick on the minority, it is easy to say this is wrong because it is not like us, I get that, do I agree with it, no, but I understand the this or that attitude.

You are trying to show me your truth, and attempt to set everyone to those standards. You can’t put me down, for you to be able to do that I would have to hold some truth in your book, I do not.

If you are happy being a Christian, be happy. If you are truly happy being an ex-homosexual, then be happy, if you need god, to get up each day, to make your life have a purpose, then by all means, go ahead. Yet do not use your god as a means to degrade or make another’s value less than because they do not have the same set of standards as you, or they do not have the same beliefs as you. Or even, they may believe in the same god, and just choose to believe that their god will not hate them for who, as they believe, he/she made them to be.

“We don't judge until we remove the beam from our eyes; then we judge out of love”
You judge them out of love, of all the hypocrisy that has been said thus far, this sir, takes the cake.

If as you said earlier, all humans are sinful, then are you not already living in a place of sin? Oh do tell me about freeing people like me. Oh you mean people who do not judge those based on their sexual orientation? Or do you mean people who do not allow their personal beliefs or lack thereof to be a factor within how they treat people? Oh.. do tell me, about me. Who are you sir, to judge what should make another happy? You sir, do not speak for everyone. You speak for you, what makes you happy would disgust some. But that is what makes life enjoyable, differences, differences of beliefs, differences of sexual orientations, differences of lifestyles, if not for the differences within life, such would be such a boring existence of distorted normality that has been guised by corrupted morality.

Addy4473
@waxxjf: Friend, you just don't seem to understand everything. You lash out because you're hurt by what I've said, but nothing I'm saying is out of bias, hatred, judgment, or anything of the sort. I'll answer your questions for you.

I can't condemn; only God can condemn. The word condemns, not me. I just preach the word. As for the Bible's time line? The last recorded book is the book of Revelation, which is thought to have been written in 92 A.D. and is written by the Apostle John. The Bible itself wasn't composed until centuries later, I do believe.

The statistics (the numbers themselves) are unbiased. But the website is against homosexuality. http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/a02rStatistcs.html There is one website for you. There is another, but it hasn't been updated since 2005. Not all of my statistics were found on websites, so I can't send you everything. Take a look if you want :)

Anyways. God's word is true. If it says it is wrong, then it is wrong. Who are you to say, in a world where atheism reigns, that I am wrong, and you are right? Who am I to say you are wrong and I am right? But in a world where God does exist (and I am 100% convinced there is a God) we have objective moral values to follow that will protect us. We follow His law because we love Him (His children) and they protect us from sin and its harmful consequences.

In a world where atheism reigns, you can't invalidate the Bible based on it's moral views. :) But in truth, God's Word remains; your word can change, my word can change, but His word will never change. :)

Just because something is socially acceptable doesn't mean that God's word will change. It will remain the same forever. As a Christian, I stand against sin, repenting and begging everyone to repent. Sin is destructive, it leads to death! :(

I am a sinner saved by grace. You can be saved by grace too. In truth, we are equal; the only difference is that I'm saved. :) I care about you, and I care about homosexuals. That's why I say what I do. Not to discriminate, but to show them the truth. :) God bless you.


waxxjf
@Addy4473: Where did I lash out? I asked you to back up your claims. That is not lashing out, that is asking you to support what you are saying. Or if you say that an organization or a study did this, then give the name of the study. Dear sir, you give yourself way too much credit, I am not hurt by anything you have said. I do wish you could see the hypocrisy of it all, but your beliefs are your own, I am not trying to change them, nor do I want to change them.

Yet you have condemned them. You speak of Jesus and Christianity, yet if you want to speak of these things you must also speak of the truth which is, Jesus, himself, never said one thing about gays, or it being a “sin”. Yet your Jesus, did speak of loving those not like yourself, even social outcast, yet today it is the, believe what I do or god shall punish you.

The bible itself, the modern one was written between 1400 BC- 1000 AD, this is the adding things to it, or the changing things within it, it is not me saying these things, it is Christian scholars from many websites, books, and documentaries on the history of Christianity.

It is not biased but from a site that is against homosexuality? You just flawed your own premise. Looking at that link, they say “one study shows” “another study shows” yet they do not offer links to the studies themselves. So if they do not offer links to the studies themselves, how do you know that the studies are unbiased?

God's word is true ONLY for those who choose to believe in god. You cannot set your god's standards for everyone. Particularly since many faiths do not believe in your text. So it is not true for them. As I have said, if god works for you, then great. Yet I see no reason to use your god to promote bigotry and homophobia. Saying they are diseased, depressed people, such a big generalization you use for your arguments, yet with no unbiased statistic to back them up.

For my statistics, all I would have to do is link you to the health department websites and you can see the new cases of STD's etc are not within the gay community but heterosexuals. While the number of gays and STDs have been going down for a decade.

"Who are you to say, in a world where atheism reigns, that I am wrong, and you are right? "
That was funny, Atheism reigns? In a country where 80% of the country is Christian, in a world where 76% of the people are religious. Do show me how Atheism reigns.

And by reigns I mean show how Atheism is subjugating your religion, you cannot say it reigns for upholding the constitution of separation of church and state, you cannot say it reigns for people not allowing religion to dictate their lives. But do state your case.

That would hold water, if it were true, but sadly it is not.

Um, god's words have changed, many things that were "sins" in the old testament, and are now socially acceptable have been taken out of the bible, and as such are no longer "sins" to the religious person. If a person truly wishes for "god's laws" they would have to follow the old testament only, not the new, revamped to fit society new testament.

Same forever? Even though it has changed ? hm

Yet you are discriminating against them, do tell me sir, who are you to tell another they are not happy because they don't live their life the way you want them to? Whose to say your truth is their truth? The truth is subjective.

Addy4473
@waxxjf: Friend, I'll have to point something out with you; you're twisting my words. You need to understand that I'm not discriminating against homosexuals, or you, or anyone else. You need to just take a minute and read the sentence a few times before you come to any rash conclusions.

You lash out when you call my love "bigoted" or you imply that I am a bigot. Who are you to say that my love is bigoted? My feelings towards this are known to God, and I'm being as sincere as I can be. I truly do care, I have nothing against homosexuals in themselves, just their actions. I don't want them to burn in hell, or to continue in their lusts, that's why I say what I do. :)

Friend, too much credit? What do you mean?

I haven't condemned anyone. You see, you're twisting my words. I'm simply stating God's word, nothing else. His word condemns, not myself. I have no power to condemn; however, His word convicts, and He only has the power to condemn. I'm saying this because, as little as I know about Him (and nobody on this earth knows too much about Him, as odd as that sounds) we do know that only God and his Word can condemn. We only speak out His word. Thus, the word condemns.

Jesus is God. Thus, Jesus will never contradict His Father, nor argue against Him. God the Father instituted the law against homosexual acts, and God the Father gave us the gift of marriage, and clarified how marriage shall work; thus, Jesus will not contradict who He is. Also, just because Jesus never condemned homosexuality doesn't mean that He condoned it either. Jesus affirms what marriage truly is in Matthew 19 4-6. So yes, Jesus would condemn homosexuality.

Just because we're supposed to love doesn't mean that we love sin. God loves sinners, but hates sin, and can't have a relationship with us until we are forgiven of our sins through Jesus' blood. :)

Again, you need to listen to what I'm saying to you. The books of the Bible themselves were written and dated between different time periods, dating from the 1400s B.C. (Genesis) all the way to 95 A.D. ( I think I made an error with the date on Revelation, I was confusing it with the gospel of John lol) but they were collected and compiled by the church into an entire book. And the addition and changing of things is merely translating it from Greek to Latin, or Hebrew to Greek/Latin, Latin to English, etc., using different variations of language. I'm also pretty sure that the Bible was constructed before 1000 A.D. but I can't confirm that. Either way, you have to do the research, friend.

The website itself is considered biased because it takes a side against homosexuality. It would be the same as looking at a website for homosexuality. It will be biased. The statistics themselves, however, are unbiased and are collected from various sources. You can't invalidate the statistics just because they failed to provide a link to their own sources. You're just digging for more information and providing an illogical error against my claim.

Anywho. God's Word is true, in my eyes. What I'm saying is that I know it to be true. Whether you claim it to be true or not is up to you, and everyone else that analyzes the evidence. As a seeker of truth, I find it to be the only thing to be true when compared to other religions. So. :) I find it to be the only thing to be true. I've looked into it with an open heart; thus, I find truth inside of it.

Again, 78% of homosexuals have had contact with STDs. Of course, it would be hard to convince you, seeing as how you have labeled them as biased. I could easily label your statistics as biased, but I won't. These statistics might be true, but the fact is, you haven't validated that homosexuality is less prone to disease than heterosexuality. I would agree with you in saying that heterosexuals are very sexually crazy too. I'm ashamed to admit that. However, that doesn't excuse homosexuality, nor condone it.

Again, I would like you to see what I'm trying to say to you before you come to a rash conclusion. In a world where atheism reigns is hypothetical; I'm saying that if there is no higher authority or authorities, and atheism is indeed confirmed. It's a hypothetical situation. As in, if atheism is true. I'm not implying that atheism is the highest leading statistic in America. I'm sorry to have led you in the wrong direction.

And I'd like for you to give me an example of a moral law that has changed as of now. I can't find any at all. As I said, just because it's socially acceptable doesn't mean that God's word has changed. He is the same today, yesterday, and forever. So :)

The truth in itself cannot be changed by opinions, beliefs, or superstitions. I suppose you can include my beliefs along with your beliefs. Two lies don't make a truth. However, we both truly belief in what we say, but we can't both be right. Either one is right and the other wrong, or we're both wrong. But I'm afraid that I'm not able to submit. The evidence weighs towards homosexuality, my friend.

God bless you :) I'm sorry if I worded anything oddly. I'm trying to be as clear as I can be.



waxxjf
@Addy4473: You say I am twisting your words, I have twisted nothing, yet your words speak of the underlining tone of bigotry. Saving them from themselves. It is rather apparent to any who read them, as many have, what your intentions are. You call them ‘bad” or immoral, not for what they have done, but for who they are. That is bigotry.

I did not lash out, yet your love, is a bigoted love, because it is a conditional love. You say you are trying to save them from themselves, you say that they are on a destructive path. You say that that was once you, yet you are no longer that way, gay or having homosexual tendencies, thanks to Jesus Christ. Even though Jesus himself, never spoke one word against nor for homosexuality.  Of the verses that mention honoring mother and father, man shall not lay with man as women, were all written before the time of Christ.

I think I have said exactly what I meant in the message about the credit.

I am not twisting anything, I am going by exactly what you have said, you, not a god, said that they are 73% depressed, you stated, 78% have had some type of STD. Your premises, which you states were from some study, a study you could not recall the name, a study you could not recall the institute that did the study, a study from a group that may or may not have a website.

You claimed this study was unbiased, yet the only website you could find, you, yourself admitted was an anti-gay website. To which they also did not name the studies, did not name the group who did the studies, nor did they even name where they got their information.

You speak of gods words, god didn’t write any study that you used to bolster your claims, god did not say they are depressed, diseased humans. Humans do such things. You put yourself up on a pedal of morality, oh yes you admit you sin, and no sin is greater than the next, yet you, think they are the ones who need “saving” from themselves from your “judging them out of love” Hypocrisy is what it is sir. It is  not out of love, it is not for caring of them, it is to simply, and humanly bolster yourself by making another seem at fault. Forcing your scale of immoral morality onto those who do not believe as you do, condemning what you once were yet is no longer good for you.

Oh yes the trinity, Father, son, holy spirit all making up one “god”. Written within a text of a people who even till this day, in general have no belief of y our Christ; most jews do not believe in your Christ and yet you use their text to back up your claims to attempt to bolster your beliefs in something that never had a belief in you.

God gave us the gift of marriage even though people have been getting married before they believed in your god? So text written before Christ, are being used in Christianity as the words of Christ, because they are the words of god, and Christ is god. Am I the only one who see the circular logic in that?

You cannot say what Jesus would do, you can only say what he did do. And he never spoke against homosexuality in any way. Even all of the gospels says that. Oh and there were gays at that time … since the Leviticus part is from the Hebrew bible that is to say hundreds of years before Christ it was gays then as well. So surely, if you believe Christ is intelligent he knew what they meant…and still never say anything of them.

It is sinful to you, because your book says it is. Yet who are you, to condemn those who do not believe as you do?  Your book speaks of not judging and no one being in the position of judging except god. Yet you are judging a group of people for who they are, for who they had no choice to be. Are you equated yourself in the morally just position of judgment? Oh and that hypocritical comment of judging them out of love, oh please stop the hypocrisy.

I have done the research, and the dates I said were from Christian scholars who know more about that book than you or I. Are you trying to say you know more about the bibles history than men and women who have made it their profession for decades?

Actually you can, because if you say that this study shows this, the study usually shows backgrounds, and say of this, this person or that person have a higher depression rate or that. Yet when you link me to a anti-gay website which will only put the negative statistics on their page that in itself in invalidating it, because it is biased.

Sir,  I do not have to dig for anything for the very website you linked me to, is fallacy. Have you read around the website? I saw several lies and inconsistencies even amongst their own text. So if you are going to use statistics, this is not elementary school sir. If you wish to back up your claim, you have to name the statistic, you have to name the group. Linking me to a biased website and claiming, they are biased but the statistics are not, is debunking your own premise.

It’s true for you, that does not make it universally true for everyone. If it works for you, then great, if you need god to get up each day and make your life have a purpose, amazing, yet do not use your god as a means of hatred. Do not turn around and judge another, especially when your book speaks of you being in no position to judge. I have no religion, but if they work for others, great, yet I will not stand by and watch a minority of people, picked on, demonized, judged, by a majority just because they can. I will not stand by and allow your bigotry to continue and say nothing. That would make me no better than you. The pusher of bigotry in the name of love; oh yes we judge them because we love them. We demonize them because we care. It is all hypocrisy.

"Again, 78% of homosexuals have had contact with STDs."
Once again, what is the name of the study, what group did the study. You keep spouting out claims, and refuse to back them up. If you got them from a biased website, so say so. But your continuing to say it is not biased, yet refusing to say where you got it from only furthers the implication of the fallacy.

How can you label health department statistics as fallacy? They have no underlining agenda, an anti-gay website, does.

Well as I have told you, check out the health department website. You will see that the majority of new cases of STD's in America are 14-27 year olds, usually African American and hispanics for the leading growing statistics in urban areas. When you combine this with other health department studies, you can also see that these people are heterosexual, and that the homosexual STD peak if you will were in the mid 80s, -mid 90s for the highest of numbers, since then thanks to medical advances and such it has dropped dramatically.

Well that would be true, if it was not a lie.

Look up statistics sir, you will see, and American statistics have proven that in area with a higher Atheist percentage, the crime rate is usually lower, not higher. You are attempting to say that with Atheism there will be XY & Z going wrong. You do not have to be a theist sir to have morality.

Hm, death penalty crimes or acceptable things...Eating shell fish? Stoning your mother for wearing two different fabrics, selling your daughter into slavery, touching a dead pig, working on the sabbath etc... pretty sure these are no longer socially acceptable and religious people, well christians do not follow these things any more because pretty much all of them would be killed if they were to truly follow all of the text new and old.

That book was written by man, for man, to keep people enslaved, it has been rewritten or altered dozens of times, is this the book of absolute which has been changed so drastically between each version the book you claim is absolute truth?

But you must admit that religion is not a “truth”. In fact the very definition of faith is to believe in something you have no proof or evidence to believe.

Religious truth is an ultimate opinion of a higher power, and many have changed their beliefs, some converted to beliefs that went against what they use to believe, some stopped believing altogether. So you see, it can and has been changed many times.

You say your book is truth, even though the story of Christ is not an original idea, you do know that right? That many so called prophets in ancient times were recorded as being born to a virgin, walking on water, had healing abilities, and yet to Christians these are only myths and superstitions, yet they believe their savior can do such things.

What “evidence”, if you mean words written in a book, that is belief, not evidence. Evidence would be you showing me, without religious text, where homosexuality has corrupted a people.

Blogging Buffoon Activated

Okay I am bored as fuck so figured I would write a quick blog on random nothingness.

First bout of non-socialistic random nothingness…
Yes I was messing with a few people on here and real life friends that when they would say happy independence day I would say I will be celebrating on December 6th, sadly, and more expectedly many had no idea what I was referring to.

Well the whole July 4th is the Americans… whites succeeding and getting independence from Britain. So why would I celebrate it? I mean even when America got its independence slavery was still legal and thus they were not free, nor independent. So December 6th is when the 13th amendment abolishing slavery was adopted into law, and thus is the day they gained independence…

Or February 3rd, 1870, when the fifteenth amendment passed that said a citizens race, color, previous condition of servitude etc could not be a factor for them having the right to vote…. But okay.

Okay.. bring on the socialism…
It has recently come to my attention that a certain mummer says every socialist is anti American, and that no socialist has ever done anything worthwhile for this country.

Hm, should I mention Francis Bellamy, the writer of your pledge of allegiance, a proud socialist.

Or Bayard Rustin, an openly homosexual man who was an American civil rights activist, as well as one of Martin Luther King Jr. top advisers and one of the chief organizers to the march on Washington? As well as him being a gay rights activist ... also a proud socialist [as well as MLK saying he respected his views and socialist ideologies]

Or A. Philip Randolph, another American civil rights activist, who was the driving force behind the brotherhood of sleeping car porters which allowed blacks to be paid fairly in the particular field of that job… a man who MLK said he also respected his views and said that Randolph was one of his greatest influences

Or Eugene V. Debs, the 1920 presidential candidate who lost because the people said his socialist views were anti-American, what were these views? Equal rights for blacks, an end to child labor and a set minimum wage for labor fields… things we now hold dear in America today, he was a proud socialist.

These are just a few of those “American hating socialist” I could name from this country alone. How dare they want equal rights for everyone, and for the average man to not have to withstand the brutal reality of a unequal capitalistic society that is built upon the enslavement of the common man for the benefit for a few.

… now I also see in another mumm that someone said they will move every “socialist” program this state has, so can I tell them to say bye to public education, Medicare/Medicaid, a minimum wage for the average worker, equal rights for blacks, women’s suffrage, and many other things that are now the norm that many socialist were ridiculed for supporting for at the time it was “anti-American”

Since he is a Christian…should I assume he has never read his bible? Jesus was much more a socialist than a capitalist, hm I do remember him speaking of it being easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich guy to get into heaven hm …oh no, an Atheist quoting the bible haha

Can I just that this guy has no clue what socialism is? Especially since he thinks socialism is the same as communism.

He says socialism want to take his freedom’s away, since this guy does not know the difference between a democracy and a republic, [since he though USA was a democracy when we are a republic] he also does not know the difference between civil rights, and civil liberties. Since he believes someone can be both fascist and communist, and a host of other reasons, should I just go on a limb and say this guy knows nothing of politics?

 
So yes, I am a proud socialist, humanist and globalist. Why aren't you? [you can read my profile to see exactly why I am either]

According to this one guy, socialist are anti American who want to amend the constitution to suit them...

Oh you mean how Dwight D. Eisenhower violated the constitution in adding under god to the pledge of allegiance in 1954?
...I do remember somewhere in the constitution there being something about a separation of church and state, religion and law..

Or when Bush tried to violate the constitution by making "marriage" be between man and woman only?

Or how the conservatives and some liberals now want to violate the constitution by taking away a woman's right to a choice.

But is changing the constitution bad?
If it were then blacks would never have been free.
Women still would not have the right to vote.
Child labor would still be legal.
Civil rights would not have happened...

The constitution does not have a resistance to change for it, by its very nature is a living document that can, and has changed with the times.

… this was quickly done in like 10 minutes, if I actually spent time on it I could name dozens of socialist that were great figures in this country that he would have never heard of. Why? Because according to this guy Faux News is truth and if it isn’t on there it is a lie....

Okay Spinoza said to do a quick blog…. was suppose to post this days ago and I forgot

Oh noes, a blog of words, run now!

So I will be discussing random things or answering questions posed to Me…

Three things that would speak of My politics or ideal world view…
Socialism
Humanism
Globalism

[no stupid American, socialism is not the same as communism.. damn read a book]

I find freedom's mumm “How Socialists get it wrong ALL the time” [http://www.fubar.com/mum.php?id=600523] rather funny. He attempts to brand socialism as anti US and Israel because a socialist is a harsh critic of Israel and US.. so does this mean we can think that Partisan Americans who are against Israel must be socialist?

Hm, does that mean Francis Bellamy the writer of your pledge of allegiance, a pledge devoting ones self to this country, is anti American? I mean he was a PROUD socialist? Hm, your theory is as always flawed.

Since he blocked Me for questioning his style of English .. funny.
[Yes emanon tell them why he blocked you]
He said he speaks English, so a few replies later he said “dam” yet meant “damn” so when I asked what kind of English is that, he said Conservative English. So I asked is conservative English the misspelling of simple words? As well as mentioning that he said that “damn” was the liberals trying to change the English language and saying I made up the word “premise”…

I feel bad for the “conservative English” speakers who think I made up words that have been around before I was even born..

Given freedoms logic of one Socialist disagreeing with something he believes they all must be wrong… given just that illogical logic then

All Atheist are terrible people because of the acts of Stalin
All Catholics are terrible people because of the acts of Hitler
All Christians are terrible people because of groups like the KKK, Sons of freedom etc
All Muslims are terrible people because of groups like Al Qaeda, Lashkar-e-Tayyiba, etc
All Jews are terrible people because of groups like Lehi, Kach, Kahane Chai, etc.

Do you see the fallacy in such a argument?

[More Crap]

The Jew: My idea of freedom:
While I know this may change with the person, my idea of freedom would be a system where people focus on PEOPLE and the environment, a system not run on capitalistic greed or the minority of people having all of the power and wealthy, a system where people help each other. Not only looking out for them selves.

[I could go on and on about the particulars of my idea of freedom but I will make this a blog of short replies on several subjects]

d@nc3dancegrl: What are you [as far as American political parties]? I am a registered Independent, I find both democrats and republicans equally destructive in that at their core, is to disagree with the other side and nothing, if anything, rarely gets done.

Is there any republican who was a possible candidate in the last two elections that you would have voted for?  Yes, Ron Paul, one of the few politicians I can respect, even if I do not agree with all of his views [especially on abortion].

Have you ever voted for a republican? Well since I just voted for the first time in 2008, yes, Obama was the only democrat that got my vote. All other local government positions were either republicans or independents.

Spinoza: What is terrorism [Question for all]

The dictionary term of course is rather simple, terrorism is the act of committing violence or threatening to commit violence in order to strike fear into the civilians for whatever reason.

The reason this came up I guess is because when he had Bin Laden picture and was blocked and called a terrorist, as well as a soldier got very emotional and came in his shout.

Well I suppose the question is the same age old statement, one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

To Americans they think they hate us because of our freedom, our democracy [we have a republic not a democracy…  but okay]

You can easily explain their issues with us in three simple sentences, see not as complex as people think.

1] we backed them in an attempt to battle against saddam in an attempt to overthrow em…
…our allies, they loved us…

2] we stopped backing them when we realize that our goal would not be possible.
,…no longer allies… still doesn’t hate us

3] we back their enemies and started killing them
… who could not have seen this would bring some type of animosity?

So while in America they think they hate us for our “freedoms” [even though most Americans do not know the difference between civil rights and civil liberties] …this is not the case..

Spinoza: Why is Homosexuality can not be accepted by most Americans? [Question for all]

Well, I think this is because most Americans are close minded bigots who allow their religious text to dictate their lives and use it as a crutch to be proud bigots.

I am sure you have heard it “I do not hate gays, god hates gays”

One Christian told Me that Jesus is against gays, hm that text is in Leviticus, which is in the Hebrew bible written before Jesus time, and if you read the bible and all of the gospels [of course most of the gospels are written by people who never met jesus..hm] anyway, jesus never said not one word against gays hm.. Though if I wanted to follow the bible I will go kill My mother for wearing a dress out of two different fabrics, or kill everyone who works on Sunday, kill anyone who touches a dead pig and blah blah blah …

As usual, religious people pick and choose what part of the bible they will follow, then why do you choose to follow the bigotry? Hm

Okay your opinions.. on the homosexuality issue.

Any other politicsl or religious questions you want MY PERSONAL OPIONS ON, do comment and I shall add it to the blog with My opinion...

Waits by the door of the cave to address comments...

This was going to be posted yesterday, but comp crashed...so here goes.

So, I am going to the church of logic and reasoning, while there I plan to meet other like minded individuals.

I am bored this is a quick blog that a friend said to post because we are bored :P

In Atheist News, is Atheism the new Christian Extremism?

Well it is according to one fellow, whom in the mumms, called the guy an Atheist Idiot, and then said even though I know it's Dana

Wait... What.. Wait, let us break this apart.

Atheist Idiot... yea you're right, not just accepting the lack of proof makes us idiots.. but okay

"Even though it is Dana".. WAIT.. Dana, you mean that die hard christian who thinks Atheist will all burn in hell... so please fellow inform us how are Atheist like Dana.

To say an Atheist is like Dana, is to say I support Jews so much I backed hitler hm wait... yup it is just like that

But I digress....

Atheist & Politics

"Bush: No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."

Let us evaluate this, yes I know that the Bush family were not known for their intelligence but...

"I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens"

Hm, citizens based on beliefs, or lack there of.. yup pretty sure that is a constitutional violation, from a party who claims to hold the constitution so near and dear.

"nor should they be considered patriots"

Why is that? Can only Judeo-Christians love their country? .. was unaware that ones beliefs determined their loyalty.

"This is one nation under God."

Here is where it gets fun.

Well No, we are not nor have we ever been one nation under god.

Atheist support Christianity?

I will bring up the original Pledge of allegiance written by Christian Minister Francis Bellamy

"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. "

As an Atheist, we do support or rather have no problem with Bellamy's original written oath of allegiance for it did not differentiate between races, classes or beliefs, it incorporated all Americans.

You cannot have it both ways, either we are one body, one nation, indivisible, or you place your god in the way and then start separating people by whether or not they believe what you believe.

When speaking of today's American as it pertains to today and their being against Atheist taking the American government to get the original pledge put back and god also taken off the money...

When speaking of this I had to bring up Obama, you see it fox news, conservatives stations about the evil socialism, that it is all bad and that Obama wants this nation to be a socialist nation, and always comparing him to Karl Marx, a brilliant man with great socialist views. I am a proud Socialist, I am a proud humanist and globalist, I have no need for your silly chauvinistic style of patriotism nor do I have any use for your simple minded classism.

Well getting back to the point, with conservative Americans speaking so against socialism and so FOR the pledge of Allegiance, it is clear that they know nothing about Francis Bellamy, because if they ever took the time to read up on Bellamy they will know he wrote several books that spoke of his want, and longing for a socialist utopia, where the people were taken care of by those in power, and where classes and such did not matter. Bellamy thought that as a Christian, socialism was the only true political system because it was "christ like" in the not separating by classes and wealth but that all the people were one...

Oh noes conservatives, you love a saying written by a well known socialist, who had no use for your capitalistic greed...poor you, okay conservative you may start demonizing the socialist now... I should not be too surprised since most Americans when asked to describe Socialism describe Fascism, and when asked what are the components of ONLY socialism, they describe communism..

I get asked this quite often when I say that I am an Atheist and have been one since the age of seven. To be quite honest, the simplest answer I can answer people with is “I am an atheist because I have read religious text” that pretty much sums it all up. I have read their bibles, koran, jewish books, pagan, Wiccan and things of that nature and after reading them, I could not force myself to believe such rehashed B.S. But hey if it works for you, great, as they say, do you but I do not have this thing of faith.

Do know that Atheist are not "Anti-God" that is rather moronic, you cannot be against something you do not believe exist. You can be against the dogmatic belief that places such high value in the being, but it is rather funny, on the retarded type of entertainment when I hear Atheist claim to hate god. So you hate what you do not believe exist... idiotic at best.

Atheist Hate…?
I was once asked by a theist do I hate god.

I said of course not, to hate something you must first acknowledge its existence, and if I acknowledged your gods existence long enough to hate it then how could I ever claim to be an Atheist?

The theists I believe have Atheist misunderstood, as a general concept Atheism is just the absence of faith. Pass that anything that the individual person likes or dislikes is the doing of that individual, not their beliefs or disbeliefs in anything.

Thanks to a Christian website I Shall post several things that they say and attempt to refute them with real life statistics and facts

The following were quotes taken from http://www.tencommandments.org/heathens2.html, just ONE PAGE of six of the big Atheist conspiracy. You may go to the page and see that of the quoted words I have changed none

“ATHEISTS HATE THE TRUE GOD, NOT THE FALSE ONES”
According to this person we “hate god” simply because we believe God to be a man made or rather god is a thought up thing of man and not real. This means that Atheist hate god, even though this person goes on to demonizing other faiths that do not agree with his Jesus or god, so does that mean he hates them because he believe their faith is a “false faith” and made up?

No sir. Atheists believe in no gods, so therefore we cannot hate nor love false or any other types of gods. Because in the recognizing of any god, be it monotheist or polytheistic, that is a religion, which is not Atheism.

And before I get those usual comments saying Atheism is a religion; look up the definition of religion, to belief in some type of supernatural or higher power. Atheist, have no such beliefs in any type of higher powers.

“ATHEISTS CREATE CRIMINAL SOCIETIES”
While I understand that as a theist you believe your god is the center of morality but do tell us this.

If Atheist create such criminal societies then why are we the minority in all of your criminal institutions? What I mean is, Atheist make up .02% of your prison system, for a people who are so “god fearing’ and things of that nature, you would think the majority would be Atheist.

Let us also look at scientific sociology studies, according to one study, when you have a higher percentage of Atheist, you have a lower percentage of crime, when you have  a higher percentage of Atheist you have a higher average IQ, when you have a lower percentage of Atheist, hate crimes nearly triple what they were. While this sociology study done in the later 90’s to early 2005 shows that Atheist actually stabilize societies of their chaotic theistic intentions.

“PROOF ATHEISTS DELIBERATELY REJECT GOD”
You actually need proof that we reject the idea of god? … all you had to do is ask an Atheist. Rejecting the idea of something does not mean we hate it… your arguments are starting to become redundant.

“Guess Who The Computer Hackers Are”
This one just made me laugh, I mean he thinks that Atheist are behind all computer hacking codes, I mean REALLY your arguments started moronic yet sound, and now it falters more and more

“ATHEISTS PROVE THE EXISTENCE OF GOD BY THEIR OWN LABEL”
According to this person, the term “A-THEIST” proves gods existence because, his definition is that if you have “fidelity” you have a spouse and if you commit “infidelity” then you are going against what is already there. So basically be believes that “A” Theist is just going against what he knows to be true.

Sorry silly man, Atheism, or rather the thought of atheism is older than theism, we already know, thanks to fossils and things of that nature that early human or rather the original creatures we evolved from were very simple hunter gatherer types who did not have any faiths or in some of their ways and cave drawings did not show any belief in a higher power.

Theism or more accurately polytheisms, came for when they could not understand something. Such as raining, rainbows, the sun, the moon and things of that nature use to be, by early civilizations, after several evolutionary periods and increased intelligence, were thought to be the work of several gods and things of that nature. As time passed and we begin to understand these things more, we knew they were not a god per se and knew how they operated, this polytheistic belief in these things did not disappear, more so in stead of dozens of gods each being responsible for one or two things, you got an all powerful, all knowing god who controlled everything.

So if Atheism, a disbelief; predates religious teachings, how could they be proof of a god? Using that logic, Theism, a belief, is proof that there is no god. Since the original people did not have any beliefs.

“ARE YOU A DESCENDANT OF THE APES?”
He believes that evolution is a big Atheist conspiracy… I mean do I really have to even address this? We now have several fossilized remains showing a distinct evolutionary jump over the thousands of years from the original man, to the homo-sapiens that we have today. If you do not believe in evolution, I shall just assume that you refute logic and reasoning to go with you faith based ideals which by definition, lacks logic and reasoning.

“WOULD YOU FIGHT AND EVEN DIE FOR WHAT YOU DISAGREE WITH?
I'm sure you've noticed how the atheistic american constitution and its heathen amendments cause atheists and all other patriots to think and function in the society in ways that are contrary to common sense, even among those who attend universities and are so-called "educated".

All I have to say to this is, yea, a document whose only true purpose is to not be prejudice, to be the beacon of equal treatment for everyone under this nation, yea how heathen of them, how dare they want woman to be treated the same as man, ones race not to determine their social standing, how DARE these Atheist want that…..if you cannot understand the sarcasm, then I shan’t waste My time explaining.

Let knowledge be that truth, which portrays humanity, condemns malevolence, respect the differences in others while abandoning the hatred and misconceptions of the past.
~Emanon

Salutes!!!

I have none, so if you have that salute block crap up that prohibits Me from commenting on pictures, blogs, pages, mumms, statuses, etc, can you do Me the favor and remove Me from your list. I am too lazy to and so I figured I would get you to do the dirty work.

Since I cannot comment on anything you post, then what is the point exactly of you being on My list?

Has science buried god?

I know those of faith shall say of course not.

Let us look at simple statistics of the United States.  [while Atheism is growing world wide, it is growing faster here than it is as a general world view]

100 years ago, there were an estimated 8% of the US considered themselves Atheist or Agnostic.

Nowadays in the year 2010, 22% of Americans consider themselves Atheist or Agnostic.

According to statistics if this current trend continues,  in twenty years times, they expect 25% of Americans to self identify themselves as Atheist or Agnostic.

And then, if that trend continues at that rate, in 35 years [15 years after the initial 20] a whopping 1/3 of America would consider themselves Atheist or Agnostic. That is 100M people would consider themselves this.

Would be great then, maybe by then we can erase the greatest constitutional violation in this history of this country that still goes on, the taking god out of our oath of allegiance and off of our money and placing them back to their ORIGINAL printings as the makers and writers intended them to be

I am bored and said I would a bulletin about illegal Immigrant reform this morning … but just got around to it and am too lazy to keep running back between a blog and bulletin so decided to simply write a blog, I found this photo on a native American site… [I actually wrote the letter  but for the sake of the blog damn it let Me say I found it]

Okay I personally find it funny for a people who live on stolen property, who pride themselves on owning the land, and who celebrates the genocide the original people of this land [which is pretty much what I think Thanks giving is… screw that first dinner crap, oh yes we ate with them….gained their trust.. then mass slaughtered them… yay  America…retards] to think themselves in any position, be it moral or legal position to tell anyone they are here illegally, especially on a land that you do not truly own.

And before anyone says anything, I used the term white man, because I was speaking from the perspective of an Native America, I was going to use the term “paleface” which is what the native Americans called white people, but by the time I thought of this I had already wrote this letter, does not mean I still may not rewrite the letter …

Okay I, from speaking to several conservative and liberal friends, and contrary to a certain idiot political mummer, conservative DOES NOT mean republican, and liberal DOES NOT mean democrat, these things are NOT interchangeable terms. Anyway when speaking to several conservative and liberal friends of Mines, some were for the immigration reform, some were against it, I personally am against it.

I just love the arguments, it will stop crime, look at Arizona and the statistics of the United States as a whole, 80% + crimes are committed by Legal citizens. Another personal favorite of Mines, they “take” American jobs, oh you mean the jobs that most Americans are too proud to work? Let us not forget of course, a very large chunk of this country use to be Mexico.

Oh yea and another favorite of Mines, they have no right here, um sorry silly little American, just because your ancestors committed a great act of genocide against some of My ancestors, then settled here, and then used another part of My ancestry to build your wealth through enslavement. Does not mean you are in any moral position to stake any claims on this land.

I would enjoy hearing some of your views on the new Immigration reform, I am sure, as My blogs always do that this will go off topic..but I expected it so also have fun.

Friend told Me to post a blog… so here goes

Am I the only one seeing point sluts who ARE NOT on My friends list activating their Auto 11’s in the alert box? I do not care about them or their silly points… leave it to fu to mess up what works perfectly fine….

*when writing this*
…I am also seeing point sluts activating their Bombs in the alert bar as well…


Also am I the only one seeing point sluts photos in their “recent upload by friends box”? When I told a certain fubar Admin about this, he said that I was not telling the truth basically…well he said that was not possible …

^^ screen shot just 5 mins old and hm look at all those point sluts in that box who are not on My friends list… damn I guess anything is possible like that saying says :P^^

On a lighter note… damn I got rick rolled yesterday when going to click on a link a friend said was from a hot gothic model with a gas mask on and instead I found Rick Astley…damn it

How to best sum up Republicans and Democrats...

Yup ... that's about it

Hm, different equations you ask...

I guess siding with one side completely just makes you a sheep... lambs for the inevitable failing slaughter... poor little partisan puppets.

Hey I have the right to do this... now should I host a flag burning ceremony and burn every flag, of every nation to show them the stupidity in their false patriotic chavinistic ways?... or should I just take all of the flags ... and hm nope burning is the best I have hm

I get asked this quite often when I say that I am an Atheist and have been one since the age of seven. To be quite honest, the simplest answer I can answer people with is “I am an atheist because I have read religious text” that pretty much sums it all up. I have read their bibles, koarn, jewish books, pagan, Wiccan and things of that nature and after reading them, I could not force myself to believe such rehashed B.S. But hey if it works for you, great, as they say, do you but I do not have this thing of faith.

Do know that Atheist are not "Anti-God" that is rather moronic, you cannot be against something you do not believe exist. You can be against the dogmatic belief that places such high value in the being, but it is rather funny, on the retarded type of entertainment when I hear Atheist claim to hate god. So you hate what you do not believe exist... idiotic at best.

                          
The Red Star Dragon wants to ask you a few questions:

Why are so many Americans Fearful of the word "Socialism"?
Why do most Americans think Socialism is Communism?
Why are so many Americans so moronic and hold silly idols in high value?
Why do most Americans think that Capitalism is good?
Why can't most Americans see pass themselves?
Why are so many American so fearful of catching up to the rest of the industrialized world?
When did freedom become enslavement?
When did the fight for equality become terrorism?
When did oppression become the norm?

Another blog made out of sheer boredom, as usual with My blogs I do not expect them to stay on topic at all...so have at it.

Let knowledge be that truth, which portrays humanity, condemns malevolence, respect the differences in others while abandoning the hatred and misconceptions of the past.
~Emanon